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	<title>Comments on: Episode 12</title>
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		<title>By: OG1</title>
		<link>http://www.gordongartrellradio.com/2009/02/episode-12/#comment-827</link>
		<dc:creator>OG1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 01:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where can I find the track &quot;My Sunshine&quot;?  I need that in my life.</description>
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		<title>By: missjoladie</title>
		<link>http://www.gordongartrellradio.com/2009/02/episode-12/#comment-793</link>
		<dc:creator>missjoladie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 15:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this was perfect! thanks!</description>
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		<title>By: AVENGER XL</title>
		<link>http://www.gordongartrellradio.com/2009/02/episode-12/#comment-789</link>
		<dc:creator>AVENGER XL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 20:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you that the media jumps too quickly to lynch celebraties like Chris Brown when he appears human and weak for a moment.  But that is the nature of fame if you with your z-list celebrity status phonte did anything the mass media in your home and the nets would probably go in on you.  Once you become a public figure that is one of the draw backs to fame.  

But the whole cut Chris Brown slack argument is weak at best did he not work hard to become a icon to young people?  After creating this character he goes and does something as left field as domestic violence.  Which sends the wrong signal to young girls their are actually young women going around saying oh girl deserved it.  That shit is primitive and barbaric when we resort to physical fighting you are resorting to 
the lowest common denominator it is like a mini war with an individual.  You should reserve fighting of any kind to a defense like position and stay away from people who hope to do you harm.  But if you are one of the people who simply want to fight because of heated arguments or what you deem as disrespect you have some growing up to do.  That shit is never worth it and part of being an adult and growing up is learning that truth.  If you want to do me physical harm then you bring the ass whooping I dish out to you on yourself but if I just flip in the heat of argument or disagreement I need to find something better to do with my anger.   

Secondly, To perserve order in society you have to agree on some rules.  The balck community has been crushed by so called war on drugs and the effects drugs have had on the black family.  So we have lost a lot of respect for ourselves and our structure.  But one thing that needs to be set in stone is do not hit women (Note: if you are stupid enough to fall for a serial killer like broad who is trying to murder you or a crazy ass ghetto chick who has a big ass but looks and acts like a dude in drag you may have to fight to save your life).  But you need to not get in a situation as a man or stay in a situation that you feel like you need to hit a woman.  

Memo to young men and old:

Women will nag you and get on your nerves sometimes but get this sometimes they are right if you look at it and sometimes they are wrong.  But just make sure you mess with women that compliment yourself emotional and mentally because when you start simply looking for a girl with Ass like Joe Buddens girl then that could come with all kinds of drama and when you get fed up then you need to leave not whoop her ass.  It is better to walk away from a woman than hit her that continues a destructive cycle in our community of disrespect for women that needs to be broken.  If a woman destroys your property leave call 5-0 and let them do their job, if you don&#039;t trust them then just leave and don&#039;t come back.  Having relationships is a grown up thing and part of it is learning to properly deal with discourse in a rational manor.  There is never an excuse to simply hit someone and act as if that solves a problem and if you feel like you need to hit seek anger management.  

P.S. fuck R Kelly his music was always wack to me but hey reagonomics killed music programs in school so the hood don&#039;t know what&#039;s good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you that the media jumps too quickly to lynch celebraties like Chris Brown when he appears human and weak for a moment.  But that is the nature of fame if you with your z-list celebrity status phonte did anything the mass media in your home and the nets would probably go in on you.  Once you become a public figure that is one of the draw backs to fame.  </p>
<p>But the whole cut Chris Brown slack argument is weak at best did he not work hard to become a icon to young people?  After creating this character he goes and does something as left field as domestic violence.  Which sends the wrong signal to young girls their are actually young women going around saying oh girl deserved it.  That shit is primitive and barbaric when we resort to physical fighting you are resorting to<br />
the lowest common denominator it is like a mini war with an individual.  You should reserve fighting of any kind to a defense like position and stay away from people who hope to do you harm.  But if you are one of the people who simply want to fight because of heated arguments or what you deem as disrespect you have some growing up to do.  That shit is never worth it and part of being an adult and growing up is learning that truth.  If you want to do me physical harm then you bring the ass whooping I dish out to you on yourself but if I just flip in the heat of argument or disagreement I need to find something better to do with my anger.   </p>
<p>Secondly, To perserve order in society you have to agree on some rules.  The balck community has been crushed by so called war on drugs and the effects drugs have had on the black family.  So we have lost a lot of respect for ourselves and our structure.  But one thing that needs to be set in stone is do not hit women (Note: if you are stupid enough to fall for a serial killer like broad who is trying to murder you or a crazy ass ghetto chick who has a big ass but looks and acts like a dude in drag you may have to fight to save your life).  But you need to not get in a situation as a man or stay in a situation that you feel like you need to hit a woman.  </p>
<p>Memo to young men and old:</p>
<p>Women will nag you and get on your nerves sometimes but get this sometimes they are right if you look at it and sometimes they are wrong.  But just make sure you mess with women that compliment yourself emotional and mentally because when you start simply looking for a girl with Ass like Joe Buddens girl then that could come with all kinds of drama and when you get fed up then you need to leave not whoop her ass.  It is better to walk away from a woman than hit her that continues a destructive cycle in our community of disrespect for women that needs to be broken.  If a woman destroys your property leave call 5-0 and let them do their job, if you don&#8217;t trust them then just leave and don&#8217;t come back.  Having relationships is a grown up thing and part of it is learning to properly deal with discourse in a rational manor.  There is never an excuse to simply hit someone and act as if that solves a problem and if you feel like you need to hit seek anger management.  </p>
<p>P.S. fuck R Kelly his music was always wack to me but hey reagonomics killed music programs in school so the hood don&#8217;t know what&#8217;s good.</p>
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		<title>By: Frantastic</title>
		<link>http://www.gordongartrellradio.com/2009/02/episode-12/#comment-788</link>
		<dc:creator>Frantastic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 20:39:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was the 1st show of yours that I was disappointed with.  Some of the songs were unsettling and the commentary of DV was kinda shitty.  

I&#039;m glad you addressed the topic but dude, just cuz Sean Connery says it&#039;s okay to smack a woman doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s okay.  Yes indeed women can provoke.  And the way to deal with that is to walk away &amp; find a woman who doesn&#039;t need to do that.  It&#039;s unhealthy to push someone, but two wrongs, as in smacking the person pushing you, doesn&#039;t make it right.

If someone is provoking, pushing, being unhealthy, then walk the fawk away.  Don&#039;t allow someone to put their crazy on you &amp; if you let a woman or a man act like that to you, you are the one with the real issue and trying to &quot;control&quot; the situation by hitting just shows you want some drama in your life.

Gordon keep on doing what your doing though.  At least you get conversations started &amp; that&#039;s really important!
~F</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was the 1st show of yours that I was disappointed with.  Some of the songs were unsettling and the commentary of DV was kinda shitty.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you addressed the topic but dude, just cuz Sean Connery says it&#8217;s okay to smack a woman doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s okay.  Yes indeed women can provoke.  And the way to deal with that is to walk away &amp; find a woman who doesn&#8217;t need to do that.  It&#8217;s unhealthy to push someone, but two wrongs, as in smacking the person pushing you, doesn&#8217;t make it right.</p>
<p>If someone is provoking, pushing, being unhealthy, then walk the fawk away.  Don&#8217;t allow someone to put their crazy on you &amp; if you let a woman or a man act like that to you, you are the one with the real issue and trying to &#8220;control&#8221; the situation by hitting just shows you want some drama in your life.</p>
<p>Gordon keep on doing what your doing though.  At least you get conversations started &amp; that&#8217;s really important!<br />
~F</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.gordongartrellradio.com/2009/02/episode-12/#comment-785</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:24:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said my nig, but another factor that doesn&#039;t get much dicussion is the fact that you have alot women that jump on their men</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said my nig, but another factor that doesn&#8217;t get much dicussion is the fact that you have alot women that jump on their men</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
		<link>http://www.gordongartrellradio.com/2009/02/episode-12/#comment-783</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephanie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the comments that site your comments on being provoked as a problem and while they do have valid points, I do not see a problem with your comments.  I do not think that any man or woman should &quot;ever&quot; strike anyone.  With that being said as a woman I know that we can be a trip at times and our attitudes and the way that some women put down men can provoke a man who can not handle that type of verbal assault.  I think domestic abuse, conflict or whatever goes both ways and I am in no way making excuses but we cannot be judgemental of the way this young man handled himself without being in his situation.  Second, I wasn&#039;t there and I do not know what happened but if he did strike her, that does not take away from his successes as an artist.  I still love his music, I just may think twice about entering into a relationship with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the comments that site your comments on being provoked as a problem and while they do have valid points, I do not see a problem with your comments.  I do not think that any man or woman should &#8220;ever&#8221; strike anyone.  With that being said as a woman I know that we can be a trip at times and our attitudes and the way that some women put down men can provoke a man who can not handle that type of verbal assault.  I think domestic abuse, conflict or whatever goes both ways and I am in no way making excuses but we cannot be judgemental of the way this young man handled himself without being in his situation.  Second, I wasn&#8217;t there and I do not know what happened but if he did strike her, that does not take away from his successes as an artist.  I still love his music, I just may think twice about entering into a relationship with him.</p>
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		<title>By: grammarian</title>
		<link>http://www.gordongartrellradio.com/2009/02/episode-12/#comment-677</link>
		<dc:creator>grammarian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:13:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phonte, Brainchild, the playlist was on point as usual. 

However, as other people have mentioned, &#039;Te&#039;s discussion of provocation concerns me greatly. There was a lot of cozy, male in-group hinting in that delivery. Your admissions that domestic violence is wrong became tainted, if not undermined, by your suggestion that the response (battery) is a, perhaps unfortunate, rejoinder to a specific &quot;cause.&quot; 

If domestic violence is, at its core, an abuse of power, it seems to me fairly misguided to attempt to understand that abuse by pointing out its provocation. Abuse itself suggests an excess that falls beyond logical response.

Yelling, screaming, cursing...par for the course of an argument.
Beating the your partner bloody...far outside the realm of dispute. 

I think you were on the right track with your examination of Breezy&#039;s personal history. But, you fell off the track when you pressed on with the language of &quot;causation.&quot;

You smothered your own opportunity to empathize with female victims of DV with this language of &quot;cause&quot; and with the &quot;Ion&#039;t know&quot; clause--the logic that says since you don&#039;t know the facts, you can&#039;t empathize with a battered woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phonte, Brainchild, the playlist was on point as usual. </p>
<p>However, as other people have mentioned, &#8216;Te&#8217;s discussion of provocation concerns me greatly. There was a lot of cozy, male in-group hinting in that delivery. Your admissions that domestic violence is wrong became tainted, if not undermined, by your suggestion that the response (battery) is a, perhaps unfortunate, rejoinder to a specific &#8220;cause.&#8221; </p>
<p>If domestic violence is, at its core, an abuse of power, it seems to me fairly misguided to attempt to understand that abuse by pointing out its provocation. Abuse itself suggests an excess that falls beyond logical response.</p>
<p>Yelling, screaming, cursing&#8230;par for the course of an argument.<br />
Beating the your partner bloody&#8230;far outside the realm of dispute. </p>
<p>I think you were on the right track with your examination of Breezy&#8217;s personal history. But, you fell off the track when you pressed on with the language of &#8220;causation.&#8221;</p>
<p>You smothered your own opportunity to empathize with female victims of DV with this language of &#8220;cause&#8221; and with the &#8220;Ion&#8217;t know&#8221; clause&#8211;the logic that says since you don&#8217;t know the facts, you can&#8217;t empathize with a battered woman.</p>
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		<title>By: Mister Rage</title>
		<link>http://www.gordongartrellradio.com/2009/02/episode-12/#comment-661</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister Rage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 12:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Big up Phonte &amp; BrainChild,keep up the good work.
Mister Rage....London...UK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Big up Phonte &amp; BrainChild,keep up the good work.<br />
Mister Rage&#8230;.London&#8230;UK.</p>
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		<title>By: datque</title>
		<link>http://www.gordongartrellradio.com/2009/02/episode-12/#comment-625</link>
		<dc:creator>datque</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 00:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man.. this was SO on point that I done told folks that aint got compters to go get them one so they could listen. One thing I will ad is that in all the noise surrounding CB and RhiRhi - maybe finally we will have a discussion about DV. meaning both ways, men on women and women on men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man.. this was SO on point that I done told folks that aint got compters to go get them one so they could listen. One thing I will ad is that in all the noise surrounding CB and RhiRhi &#8211; maybe finally we will have a discussion about DV. meaning both ways, men on women and women on men.</p>
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		<title>By: LisaAngelaPamelaRenee</title>
		<link>http://www.gordongartrellradio.com/2009/02/episode-12/#comment-597</link>
		<dc:creator>LisaAngelaPamelaRenee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 14:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Love the music. 
Note on the DV commentary:
You know I love you Tay, but you&#039;re kind of oversimplifying the issue. You&#039;re also speaking of provocation, which, of course someone should defend themselves or just grow the fuck up and not wild out when provoked. That goes for whether a man OR a woman hits a man. People just have different ways of dealing with getting so-called provoked.

Domestic Violence, however, is more of a mindset that it&#039;s okay to exert power and control over an intimate partner using violence. It&#039;s come out that this was not an isolated event between CB and Rhianna. So provocation is not even necessary for a person who is going to abuse you in that way.

In regards to her not leaving him... well after working with DV victims/survivors I can say that it is NOT that simple like &quot;just leave then&quot;. That&#039;s all I&#039;m gonna say about that.

I really think people should either have this much to say about ALL incidents of intimate partner violence or they should give CB and Rhianna some privacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Love the music.<br />
Note on the DV commentary:<br />
You know I love you Tay, but you&#8217;re kind of oversimplifying the issue. You&#8217;re also speaking of provocation, which, of course someone should defend themselves or just grow the fuck up and not wild out when provoked. That goes for whether a man OR a woman hits a man. People just have different ways of dealing with getting so-called provoked.</p>
<p>Domestic Violence, however, is more of a mindset that it&#8217;s okay to exert power and control over an intimate partner using violence. It&#8217;s come out that this was not an isolated event between CB and Rhianna. So provocation is not even necessary for a person who is going to abuse you in that way.</p>
<p>In regards to her not leaving him&#8230; well after working with DV victims/survivors I can say that it is NOT that simple like &#8220;just leave then&#8221;. That&#8217;s all I&#8217;m gonna say about that.</p>
<p>I really think people should either have this much to say about ALL incidents of intimate partner violence or they should give CB and Rhianna some privacy.</p>
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